As he reflects on his role and the space he’s been in for thirty years, he says his ultimate goal is to work himself out of a job.

“I see DEI as the stuff we should be doing for each other as human beings all the time,” he says. “It’s mind-blowing to me that talking about it has to be a separate job. Culture should be treated as a continuous-improvement strategic objective in the same way we look at finances, marketing, and other things with very intentional efforts behind them. But when most organizations talk about culture, most leaders can’t answer questions about how they’re defining it or enhancing it.”

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